pitha
02-09 10:09 PM
The reason we see progress year after year with Schedule A and nothing happens in EB reform because there is no corporate support for EB reform. This is one of the reaons why we should be open for measure like 485 whenever possible, even after febuary 15th.
Maybe we need to figure out how we can involve the corporations in EB relief. The only reasons we see Schedule A relief every year because there is a strong health industry lobby driving this. the worst part about this is that these 90,000 and 50,000 which were released last year and they are trying now are comming from the unused\recaptured visas from previous years. there is no country limit in the unused\recaptured visas for Schedule A.
when it comes to us we cannot get unused visas and added to that somebody always tries to add country limit to even unused\recaptured visas. Its a double whammy for EB retrogression. May god help us.
Maybe we need to figure out how we can involve the corporations in EB relief. The only reasons we see Schedule A relief every year because there is a strong health industry lobby driving this. the worst part about this is that these 90,000 and 50,000 which were released last year and they are trying now are comming from the unused\recaptured visas from previous years. there is no country limit in the unused\recaptured visas for Schedule A.
when it comes to us we cannot get unused visas and added to that somebody always tries to add country limit to even unused\recaptured visas. Its a double whammy for EB retrogression. May god help us.
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06-26 01:19 PM
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logiclife
06-09 03:24 PM
Gautamagg (Gautam Aggrwal) is Columban. Columban is praising Gautamagg but they are both the same person : Gautam Aggarwal.
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
Also, if you feel that IV is run by non-US educated consultants and the US educated employees are not represented or served by Immigration Voice, then please start your own organization to represent them and I will be happy to point the dissatisfied US educated members in your direction. For once, I would love to share the burden with others and if we have 2 organizations instead of one, atleast we can share the work load. So please, do start your website, your organization, your advocacy etc and take away members from us who are dissatisfied with IV and who feel that US educated folks need more representation and your organization could potentially provide that.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
Besides the points system, you should look at other aspects of the bill. Being US educated from top University, I am sure you will have no trouble in interpreting title 4 and title 5 of the bill. They are striking down AC21 provisions that provide extensions of H1 after 6 years based on pending labor for 1 one year or pending 140. And they are replacing it with pending immigration petition for 1 year as requirement for H1 extension. What that means is that there will be extensions granted to only those who have filed for 140 before May 21. After that, the 140s filed or approved would be invalid and they would have to wait for points system. And points system doesnt kick in until Oct 1 2008. So during the 1 year blackout period, between the President signing the bill and Oct 1 2008, there will be no immigration petitions filed. Old system will stop accepting 140 and new system (your favorite merits system) wont kick until Oct 2008. Combine that with removal of AC21 provisions for extensions of H1. There are tens of thousands who will be unable to extend their H1. These are the folks who are either in backlog centers or who have filed PERM but not filed 140 as of May 21 2007. Can you imagine the catastrophe? Go thru title 4 and title 5 and see the sections of INA it is amending.
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
Also, if you feel that IV is run by non-US educated consultants and the US educated employees are not represented or served by Immigration Voice, then please start your own organization to represent them and I will be happy to point the dissatisfied US educated members in your direction. For once, I would love to share the burden with others and if we have 2 organizations instead of one, atleast we can share the work load. So please, do start your website, your organization, your advocacy etc and take away members from us who are dissatisfied with IV and who feel that US educated folks need more representation and your organization could potentially provide that.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
Besides the points system, you should look at other aspects of the bill. Being US educated from top University, I am sure you will have no trouble in interpreting title 4 and title 5 of the bill. They are striking down AC21 provisions that provide extensions of H1 after 6 years based on pending labor for 1 one year or pending 140. And they are replacing it with pending immigration petition for 1 year as requirement for H1 extension. What that means is that there will be extensions granted to only those who have filed for 140 before May 21. After that, the 140s filed or approved would be invalid and they would have to wait for points system. And points system doesnt kick in until Oct 1 2008. So during the 1 year blackout period, between the President signing the bill and Oct 1 2008, there will be no immigration petitions filed. Old system will stop accepting 140 and new system (your favorite merits system) wont kick until Oct 2008. Combine that with removal of AC21 provisions for extensions of H1. There are tens of thousands who will be unable to extend their H1. These are the folks who are either in backlog centers or who have filed PERM but not filed 140 as of May 21 2007. Can you imagine the catastrophe? Go thru title 4 and title 5 and see the sections of INA it is amending.
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05-18 12:08 AM
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ndbhatt
07-23 04:42 PM
I am not sure whether it is my HR to be blamed or my corporate law firm TheChugh who has been handling my case, no one has bothered to convey my PERM status or even my case #. I feel frustrated when my HR doesn't respond about the status.
I understand that they must by flooded with application preparation but setting up a link for me to check the status shouldn't be very difficult.
I really hope that my PERM gets approved before 31st July so that I can file I-140 and I-485 concurrently.
Anyone else has experience to share about TheChugh law firm?
I understand that they must by flooded with application preparation but setting up a link for me to check the status shouldn't be very difficult.
I really hope that my PERM gets approved before 31st July so that I can file I-140 and I-485 concurrently.
Anyone else has experience to share about TheChugh law firm?
sc3
05-21 04:38 PM
I had hoped to embarrass the government further by exposing the connection to a known "hate group," but the media has refused to report that part of the story. If I could get the media to expose the racist origins of this law, we might have some hope, but don't count on it.
The next phase is to focus on legal options.
Define free media again...
The next phase is to focus on legal options.
Define free media again...
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05-21 05:38 PM
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Anybody wants to take Sugaur on his offer.
Right now the total to match is $300
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Anybody wants to take Sugaur on his offer.
Right now the total to match is $300
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02-12 11:47 AM
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EkAurAaya
04-10 05:38 PM
long story short - the grief of the anti-immigrant is... i can no longer view what's happening behind the scenes :(:( i was happy to keep quite and watch whats going on... but now i have to create commotion and risk being banned :(:(
About me: i m not a "donor" but I've donated in the past... and I've no problems with IV having donor only updates/discussions, because i know the simple fact - what the core and donors do, will in no way harm my interest :)
I don't participate in the effort as much... then i don't have any right to bark at ones who are doing it for me...
About me: i m not a "donor" but I've donated in the past... and I've no problems with IV having donor only updates/discussions, because i know the simple fact - what the core and donors do, will in no way harm my interest :)
I don't participate in the effort as much... then i don't have any right to bark at ones who are doing it for me...
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thomachan72
10-01 03:15 PM
The discussion is getting more and more interesting. somebody posted his/her experience with a particular airlines in the begining and lot of us joined in to crucify him/her for having said that. Then saxena came with his private jet and flight atendents and now saxena is getting rounded up. Interestingly UP/Bihar came up (knowingly / unknowingly) almost as a derogatory remark. Then somebody proved that its not UP/Bihar but south indians who are really hipocrites. In between all this somehow the airlines industry people escaped and are laughing. The final take seems to be something like this; We have chosen to be frustrated and if the earth doesn't give us reasons we will look for it in the sun. Either way we will reach our goals. Now let us make a tally of how many reds / greens each person got and find the winner.
Whenever and if at all I ever get to meet the creator divine I will certainly ask him how drunk he/she really was when he created the human brain.
Anyway sorry for interupting the "serious" discussion. Please continue...
Whenever and if at all I ever get to meet the creator divine I will certainly ask him how drunk he/she really was when he created the human brain.
Anyway sorry for interupting the "serious" discussion. Please continue...
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06-21 11:01 AM
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07-18 12:09 PM
bestia,
My point is enjoy your dinner, yes you can't worry about every hungry man but don't tell the hungry to enjoy the hunger! If we can't help them let's not rub it in their face. That's all I am saying. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant for you. You have shown understanding. I did see a few ppl earlier who literally asked ppl to "shut up and enjoy the ride". That really pi*** me off.
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
Bigtime008,
Its really your judgement call if you believe whether IV is an organization that is helping BEC victims. I think the focus of this organization is retrogression relief. Nothing wrong or right about it.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
My point is enjoy your dinner, yes you can't worry about every hungry man but don't tell the hungry to enjoy the hunger! If we can't help them let's not rub it in their face. That's all I am saying. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant for you. You have shown understanding. I did see a few ppl earlier who literally asked ppl to "shut up and enjoy the ride". That really pi*** me off.
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
Bigtime008,
Its really your judgement call if you believe whether IV is an organization that is helping BEC victims. I think the focus of this organization is retrogression relief. Nothing wrong or right about it.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
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unitednations
03-23 07:03 PM
This is an indictment of the labor certification system and not a defense of the country based quotas.
Not sure what you mean by this...
I never said I agreed with country base quotas for EB. However; lawmakers, etc. are not stupid people. We have to try to understand why they are there and why it is not being changed. We have to understand the symptoms before you can find the cure.
Not sure what you mean by this...
I never said I agreed with country base quotas for EB. However; lawmakers, etc. are not stupid people. We have to try to understand why they are there and why it is not being changed. We have to understand the symptoms before you can find the cure.
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starscream
05-31 03:56 PM
Here is the link to page 6918 of the congressional record for what happened on May 24. Look at SA 1249 and it shows that the amendment has been "ordered to lie on the table". Also page 6918 and 6919 has the details of the amendment.
The link to page 6918 and 6919 are -
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6918&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6919&position=all
Ok - checked up the Congressional reciord the S. AMDT 1249 has status " lie on table" that means it has been killed. I guess that is bad news. But then again why does AILA say
One amendment that has been “filed,” but is not currently “pending” is the Cantwell amendment which is very important to business immigration interests. We do not know at this time what will happen with this amendment – whether it will come to the floor for debate or be negotiated through unanimous consent into the final package.
Is there some procedure that can undo "lie on the table"
The link to page 6918 and 6919 are -
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6918&position=all
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2007_record&page=S6919&position=all
Ok - checked up the Congressional reciord the S. AMDT 1249 has status " lie on table" that means it has been killed. I guess that is bad news. But then again why does AILA say
One amendment that has been “filed,” but is not currently “pending” is the Cantwell amendment which is very important to business immigration interests. We do not know at this time what will happen with this amendment – whether it will come to the floor for debate or be negotiated through unanimous consent into the final package.
Is there some procedure that can undo "lie on the table"
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BharatPremi
12-10 02:25 PM
I thought this will happen. People will oppose the post and find faults in Logiclife instead of themselves. There are several people coming up with their 2 cent ideas on this thread asking what IV must do and plan. But none of them want to do that themselves.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
Internet,
First of all let me tell you that nobody is claiming "Failure" here or nowhere on any other thread. The message is loud and clear: "Self Correction" to avoid possible lag- And what you are indicating could also be one of the factor and we may need to recognize it and correct it.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
Internet,
First of all let me tell you that nobody is claiming "Failure" here or nowhere on any other thread. The message is loud and clear: "Self Correction" to avoid possible lag- And what you are indicating could also be one of the factor and we may need to recognize it and correct it.
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andy garcia
09-27 12:49 PM
Exactly correct -..
Back to the numbers game - .... The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit could be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
I was hoping for such a long time for somebody to realize this.
thanks Franklin
Back to the numbers game - .... The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit could be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
I was hoping for such a long time for somebody to realize this.
thanks Franklin
niklshah
06-23 08:37 PM
hello friends,
i am apply for renewal of my Advance Parole and i am on EAD rite now. What will be my Class of Admission in that form.
please help
thanks in advance.
i am apply for renewal of my Advance Parole and i am on EAD rite now. What will be my Class of Admission in that form.
please help
thanks in advance.
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05-21 01:57 PM
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