risker
07-20 06:05 PM
I am one of the several may be thousand who have been affected. I am not using this for my slefish purposes. I am trying to get the suppoprt of IV and its members for this cause. I am not disagreeing with IV in any way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
This is an agenda for a common cause for all affected people and I want everyone to support.
Someone has to sow the seed and start the process. Doesn't mean since I started the thread it is my selfish agenda. It is part of IV's goal to get justice for all people who are affected by any immigration issue. So IV is the right forum to raise this issue.
1000 people * $20 each = $20 K. So that is not an impossibility.
If you have the will you have the way.
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Ahimsa
11-08 01:32 PM
... I personally find, Ombudsman's posts quiet interesting and good food for thought. They are put forward in a very professional manner unlike some people who use insults and sarcasm...
May be you do not know the meaning of three red dots for TheOmbudsman (it used to be two red dots this morning), which is "so many IV members do not like his postings" i.e, TheOmbudsman is "anti-IV"
FYI, if he does not like a posting with the word "CIR", why can't he ignore the post instead of replying to it with an assumption "people who mention CIR supports amnesty".
IV members support CIR just because it has EB reliefs (manager's amendment) - is it not simple enough to understand?
As someone pointed out from TheOmbudsman's posting, what "Rumsfeld resigning" has to do with immigration? What food you get from here?
May be you do not know the meaning of three red dots for TheOmbudsman (it used to be two red dots this morning), which is "so many IV members do not like his postings" i.e, TheOmbudsman is "anti-IV"
FYI, if he does not like a posting with the word "CIR", why can't he ignore the post instead of replying to it with an assumption "people who mention CIR supports amnesty".
IV members support CIR just because it has EB reliefs (manager's amendment) - is it not simple enough to understand?
As someone pointed out from TheOmbudsman's posting, what "Rumsfeld resigning" has to do with immigration? What food you get from here?
suriajay12
04-10 11:17 AM
Dear Dr. Teli (I am sure you are a Dr. because you dont let facts or reality come in the way of your diagnosis of a situation, argument or person, only a PhD can do that)
Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)
I could have told you that. I have never contributed any money to IV and probably never will. Because i dont think they are doing anything. I have, however, answered a few people's questions about AP or H4 visa (something with which i had to spend a lot of time researching). That is the extent of my "contribution". I just answered a few earnest questions to the best of my ability.
You can attack me all you want. For example, probably I am not EB2..Hmm, I thought EB2 was an employment category and not a species classification but I may be wrong...
Anyway, what happens is that whenever a new visa bulletin rolls out, there are all these posts which basically say
1. Contribute
2. We must do something
3. What is IV core doing
4. Where is VDLRAO
5. When will the injustice end
etc etc etc
I have been seeing this for the last 3 years. First things first, If you want to take action, spend 41 cents every day and send a letter to your congressman or senator everyday for 1 year....For $149 per year (365 * 0.41 not counting leap years and counting on the fact that you will mail a letter even on holidays :))
At the end of the year, at least you have something to show for what you did. With IV, you can convince people that Patton Boggs is doing all they can for you, Trust them.
I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't :)
Chaanakya,
You said "Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)".
He is not that partial that he leaves others. If you look at my posts, I noticed exactly the same. He appears to know everything about me :) . And I am very sure others here who raise valid points have noticed the same.
Please show some pity of this guy.He probably has no job, thinks supporting blindly gets him some points from core or someone.. He does manage a good # of greens though. Its possible he has 15 to 20 accounts in this forum and logs in with each account, gives greens to rest of them. Please excuse him. I usually dont reply to these folks.
Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)
I could have told you that. I have never contributed any money to IV and probably never will. Because i dont think they are doing anything. I have, however, answered a few people's questions about AP or H4 visa (something with which i had to spend a lot of time researching). That is the extent of my "contribution". I just answered a few earnest questions to the best of my ability.
You can attack me all you want. For example, probably I am not EB2..Hmm, I thought EB2 was an employment category and not a species classification but I may be wrong...
Anyway, what happens is that whenever a new visa bulletin rolls out, there are all these posts which basically say
1. Contribute
2. We must do something
3. What is IV core doing
4. Where is VDLRAO
5. When will the injustice end
etc etc etc
I have been seeing this for the last 3 years. First things first, If you want to take action, spend 41 cents every day and send a letter to your congressman or senator everyday for 1 year....For $149 per year (365 * 0.41 not counting leap years and counting on the fact that you will mail a letter even on holidays :))
At the end of the year, at least you have something to show for what you did. With IV, you can convince people that Patton Boggs is doing all they can for you, Trust them.
I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't :)
Chaanakya,
You said "Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)".
He is not that partial that he leaves others. If you look at my posts, I noticed exactly the same. He appears to know everything about me :) . And I am very sure others here who raise valid points have noticed the same.
Please show some pity of this guy.He probably has no job, thinks supporting blindly gets him some points from core or someone.. He does manage a good # of greens though. Its possible he has 15 to 20 accounts in this forum and logs in with each account, gives greens to rest of them. Please excuse him. I usually dont reply to these folks.
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kanakabyraju
07-13 08:51 AM
Thanks for replying MC. One more question. Can I send one combined check for my spouse and me?
you must send individual checks. Filing online is the best thing.
you must send individual checks. Filing online is the best thing.
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hebron
06-15 07:05 AM
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
Michael chertoff
03-28 02:28 PM
Hand toasted pizza with tomotto sauce and garlic bread.
Mr. snathan, what is your PD or you already got GC.
Mr. snathan, what is your PD or you already got GC.
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visacase
06-21 03:55 PM
Hi,
Please help me with my situation below:
1) Got laid off from company A (they haven't cancelled my H1).
2) Got my H1B transferred to company B (this H1B transfer has not yet been approved). I did not work for them.
3) I did premium processing for H1B transfer for company C and got it approved. I haven't started working for them.
4) Now I have decided to work for company D. They are ready to do my H1B transfer.
Will that be a problem or do I have to go with company C? I do not have paystubs from company B and C. If I have to reenter US, will that be a problem? Please help me out.
Please help me with my situation below:
1) Got laid off from company A (they haven't cancelled my H1).
2) Got my H1B transferred to company B (this H1B transfer has not yet been approved). I did not work for them.
3) I did premium processing for H1B transfer for company C and got it approved. I haven't started working for them.
4) Now I have decided to work for company D. They are ready to do my H1B transfer.
Will that be a problem or do I have to go with company C? I do not have paystubs from company B and C. If I have to reenter US, will that be a problem? Please help me out.
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smuggymba
03-26 10:00 PM
EB3 porting is a loophole like labor substitution.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
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kc_p21
12-10 02:07 PM
Nothing against Logiclife but response doesn't sound right.
Logiclife,
IV is a voluntary organisation. You can request people to volunteer, but cannot force them or scold them for not volunteering. This is not professional. They might have their reasons and the right to work their way. I agree with your frustration when people who signed to turn up do not show up. But I feel this is not the way to express it.
Ram
Logiclife,
IV is a voluntary organisation. You can request people to volunteer, but cannot force them or scold them for not volunteering. This is not professional. They might have their reasons and the right to work their way. I agree with your frustration when people who signed to turn up do not show up. But I feel this is not the way to express it.
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LostInGCProcess
06-17 03:53 PM
I have had all good experiences with fragoment till now, and I have been dealing with them for a couple of years now. They were very professional i should say. Again I work for one of the top 3 financial firms , and my employer has fragomen as preferred law firm.
seems to me, you are one of the paralegals or employee of that firm :D or marketing that company :cool:
seems to me, you are one of the paralegals or employee of that firm :D or marketing that company :cool:
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H1Girl
07-09 04:07 PM
I don't think i should necessarily agree with this statement. The shortage of manpower is w.r.t US Citizens with specialized skills...hence they recruit specilized people on H1/L1 categories which are known as specialized skilled employees. They won't bother about others unless they hold H/L.
Moreover, they have to think about unemployment issue caused by foreigners. Hence, I think they can't allow anyone work just like that...
I can see the most wierd issue with immigration law is that GC Holders can't bring their spouses on any dependent visa just like H4. In that sense, H4 is a bit better than 'foreign spouse of a GC holder'.
... One the one hand they will keep on syaing that we have shortage of manpower and on the other hand they try to restrict. ...
Moreover, they have to think about unemployment issue caused by foreigners. Hence, I think they can't allow anyone work just like that...
I can see the most wierd issue with immigration law is that GC Holders can't bring their spouses on any dependent visa just like H4. In that sense, H4 is a bit better than 'foreign spouse of a GC holder'.
... One the one hand they will keep on syaing that we have shortage of manpower and on the other hand they try to restrict. ...
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wahwah
11-14 10:50 PM
probably the best post i've seen on this board. good points....I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
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ssingh92
03-14 09:25 AM
Its very disappointing to me. My some of friends who filed labor just 2 months before me now will go citizenship for next year.
All EB3 who filed their I140/I485 in June and afterwards have to wait till processing date cross at least June. Right now TSC is processing April 2007 cases. I believe when both center starts processing July cases then you can see significant movement in EB3 cases. I think you need to wait till September when new quota comes. Till that time as my Atorney says focus and save your Jobs. Get more skill. Without good job all above is meaning less. Busy yourself in NFL, NBA, NHL or Cricket be cool and calm. Nothing is in your hand except waiting.
All EB3 who filed their I140/I485 in June and afterwards have to wait till processing date cross at least June. Right now TSC is processing April 2007 cases. I believe when both center starts processing July cases then you can see significant movement in EB3 cases. I think you need to wait till September when new quota comes. Till that time as my Atorney says focus and save your Jobs. Get more skill. Without good job all above is meaning less. Busy yourself in NFL, NBA, NHL or Cricket be cool and calm. Nothing is in your hand except waiting.
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gapala
03-20 10:11 PM
Yes....Each employer must file for New H1B. But it does not invalidate the current H1B, untill its revoked by the employer.
Yeah! it does not invalidate it because its a "new H1B". Not same as, lets call it portability.
Yeah! it does not invalidate it because its a "new H1B". Not same as, lets call it portability.
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mhb
09-21 10:01 PM
your contributions in the past and for the rally are much appreciated.
btw the chapter needs to have an urgent con-call about some impending legislative action. watch out for details..be sure to attend!
no problemos. just let me know the details of the call.
btw the chapter needs to have an urgent con-call about some impending legislative action. watch out for details..be sure to attend!
no problemos. just let me know the details of the call.
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franklin
09-21 05:01 PM
Ajobha, thank you for starting this thread.
I am actually curious about peoples reasoning behind not attending the rally. I don't think anyone should judge people's decisions, but if we can understand why we didn't succeed in tempting you to come, we can learn for next time.
It sounds like you might be considering going to another county or back home? Ironically, if this is true, it highlights perfectly what one of our key messages was at the rally.
You are a poster child of reverse brain drain. The US needs to keep talent, whether it is home grown or imported. By making the process so grueling, people are starting to leave in droves.
I am actually curious about peoples reasoning behind not attending the rally. I don't think anyone should judge people's decisions, but if we can understand why we didn't succeed in tempting you to come, we can learn for next time.
It sounds like you might be considering going to another county or back home? Ironically, if this is true, it highlights perfectly what one of our key messages was at the rally.
You are a poster child of reverse brain drain. The US needs to keep talent, whether it is home grown or imported. By making the process so grueling, people are starting to leave in droves.
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qualified_trash
04-10 09:19 AM
I am both surprised and grateful to see the response. I am open for any positions which require expertise in programming, design, research and analysis in Securities industry. I have PM-ed most of the folks here who offered help.
Thanks.
sent you a PM. better to join a company that is in growth mode........ and I can help. send me a PM
Thanks.
sent you a PM. better to join a company that is in growth mode........ and I can help. send me a PM
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Hinglish
03-21 03:55 PM
Im going to try again ....This whole discussion got so twisted ...so here is the gist to bring everyone back on track.
USCIS's interpretation of law for the "redistribution" of unused visa numbers is as follows (FALL ACROSS) : arrows denote transfer of excess numbers from categories
EB1 -> EB2 ROW/IN/CH
EB2 ROW -> EB2 IN/CH (proportional)
EB2 ROW/IN/CH -> EB3
EB3 ROW -> EB3 IN/CH (proportional)
Ron thinks that this is wrong and it should be as follows (FALL DOWN):
EB1 ROW -> EB2 ROW -> EB3 ROW
EB1 IN -> EB2 IN -> EB3 IN
EB1 CH -> EB2 CH -> EB3 CH
and at the end then cycle through unused visas to single state categories
I believe that USCIS's interpretation preserves the intent of the law makers to create maximum benefit to the US employers.
USCIS's interpretation of law for the "redistribution" of unused visa numbers is as follows (FALL ACROSS) : arrows denote transfer of excess numbers from categories
EB1 -> EB2 ROW/IN/CH
EB2 ROW -> EB2 IN/CH (proportional)
EB2 ROW/IN/CH -> EB3
EB3 ROW -> EB3 IN/CH (proportional)
Ron thinks that this is wrong and it should be as follows (FALL DOWN):
EB1 ROW -> EB2 ROW -> EB3 ROW
EB1 IN -> EB2 IN -> EB3 IN
EB1 CH -> EB2 CH -> EB3 CH
and at the end then cycle through unused visas to single state categories
I believe that USCIS's interpretation preserves the intent of the law makers to create maximum benefit to the US employers.
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jonty_11
11-08 11:27 AM
The main issue with Dems winning is that they will use the newly gained power to furthur their cause for 2008 presidency, but bringing down teh republicans. If taht takes priority which I fear it, immigration reform may go down the drain, as they try to retract all legislations passed by Bush, like tax cuts for oil Comapnies etc. and only work on potraying Republicans in a bad light.
sumagiri
07-15 06:07 PM
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
There are some significant flaws in your analysis. If you correct them, the number comes to around 25K.
First. The family spill over has to be applied to all categories. So the total number is 140,000 + 19,000.
Second. You calculated EB1/2/3 gets 1/3 which is not correct. They use only 28.6% not 33.3% This makes difference.
Third. The EB1+EB2 combined 70K already counted 9,800 visas for India. We should not add them again.
According to USCIS/DOS testimonies they will usually end up using only 95% of total quota. They go conservatively because they must ensure that they won't use up even a single visa more than what law allows.So total available is approximately 159000*.95 = 151050
Third. EB1, EB2, EB3 each will get 28.6%. Not one third (33.3%). That makes lot of difference. So each category will get around 43,200.
EB4 and EB5 combined will get around 21,449
Now again, going by statistics and your assumptions that EB1 and EB2 takes up 70K and EB4, EB5 takes up around 10K. The unused visas are
((43,200*2)+21,449) - (70,000+10000) = 27849.
So the total EB2 visa usage will be around 70K + 25K =95K.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
There are some significant flaws in your analysis. If you correct them, the number comes to around 25K.
First. The family spill over has to be applied to all categories. So the total number is 140,000 + 19,000.
Second. You calculated EB1/2/3 gets 1/3 which is not correct. They use only 28.6% not 33.3% This makes difference.
Third. The EB1+EB2 combined 70K already counted 9,800 visas for India. We should not add them again.
According to USCIS/DOS testimonies they will usually end up using only 95% of total quota. They go conservatively because they must ensure that they won't use up even a single visa more than what law allows.So total available is approximately 159000*.95 = 151050
Third. EB1, EB2, EB3 each will get 28.6%. Not one third (33.3%). That makes lot of difference. So each category will get around 43,200.
EB4 and EB5 combined will get around 21,449
Now again, going by statistics and your assumptions that EB1 and EB2 takes up 70K and EB4, EB5 takes up around 10K. The unused visas are
((43,200*2)+21,449) - (70,000+10000) = 27849.
So the total EB2 visa usage will be around 70K + 25K =95K.
gccovet
06-25 11:39 AM
I persuaded my manager (US Citizen) and he called as well ( I was present when he called). He voiced his support. Also, had my other colleagues call in as well.
Planning to call my friends and relatives (US Citizens) and ask them to make the calls.
GCCovet
Planning to call my friends and relatives (US Citizens) and ask them to make the calls.
GCCovet
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