485Mbe4001
06-11 01:48 PM
i wanted to aviod posting this, but please include a bit of realism in your optimism. Full disclosure: i am EB 3-I
We had a discussion on our chapter here is the extract of the email that i sent based on a couple of similar comments from fellow members.
After talking to a few of the fellow members, i feel that one the main causes for inaction is that folks who have applied under EB 2 India feel that the spillover from ROW EB 2/1 and India EB1 will be sufficient to get them their GC's in 2 years tops. EAD/AP for two years is no big deal. There is no urgency to get things done or the motivation to step up to the plate and make a few calls. If that is the case, then chances are that you are mistaken.
a) we have no estimate of the per country breakdown of pending applications.
b) we have no idea how many EB2 India applied in July 07
c) we dont know the number of multiple applicants who have EB2 and EB3 applications pending (spouse and self).
d) We have no indication of the 300k applications who were stuck in namecheck and are now eligible for approval. Namecheck victims were from all countries (you can see that ROW EB 3 is U)
This affects ROW as well as the retrogressed countries as the per country quota is still fixed.
We cannot wish this mess away. Making a few phone calls at lunch should not be a big deal.
I am Not sure everybody follows Federal Reserve revising short-term rates by every month and Financal analyst were trying to understand language(tone) of Bulletin. And Looking at tone of VISA Bulletin for July 2008 and historical Bulletins EB2 for India is very encouraging till we see the language next month for India.
VISA BULLETIN FOR July 2008
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act .....
VISA BULLETIN FOR JULY 2007
E. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
All Employment Preference categories except for Third “Other Workers” have been made “Current” for July. This has been done in an effort to generate increased demand by Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) for adjustment of status cases, and to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit. However, all readers should be alert to the possibility that not all Employment preferences will remain Current for the remainder of the fiscal year. Should the rate of demand for numbers be very heavy in the coming months, it could become necessary to retrogress some cut-off dates for September, most likely for China-mainland born and India, but also possibly for Mexico and Philippines. Severe cut-off date retrogressions are likely to occur early in FY-2008.
We had a discussion on our chapter here is the extract of the email that i sent based on a couple of similar comments from fellow members.
After talking to a few of the fellow members, i feel that one the main causes for inaction is that folks who have applied under EB 2 India feel that the spillover from ROW EB 2/1 and India EB1 will be sufficient to get them their GC's in 2 years tops. EAD/AP for two years is no big deal. There is no urgency to get things done or the motivation to step up to the plate and make a few calls. If that is the case, then chances are that you are mistaken.
a) we have no estimate of the per country breakdown of pending applications.
b) we have no idea how many EB2 India applied in July 07
c) we dont know the number of multiple applicants who have EB2 and EB3 applications pending (spouse and self).
d) We have no indication of the 300k applications who were stuck in namecheck and are now eligible for approval. Namecheck victims were from all countries (you can see that ROW EB 3 is U)
This affects ROW as well as the retrogressed countries as the per country quota is still fixed.
We cannot wish this mess away. Making a few phone calls at lunch should not be a big deal.
I am Not sure everybody follows Federal Reserve revising short-term rates by every month and Financal analyst were trying to understand language(tone) of Bulletin. And Looking at tone of VISA Bulletin for July 2008 and historical Bulletins EB2 for India is very encouraging till we see the language next month for India.
VISA BULLETIN FOR July 2008
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act .....
VISA BULLETIN FOR JULY 2007
E. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
All Employment Preference categories except for Third “Other Workers” have been made “Current” for July. This has been done in an effort to generate increased demand by Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) for adjustment of status cases, and to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit. However, all readers should be alert to the possibility that not all Employment preferences will remain Current for the remainder of the fiscal year. Should the rate of demand for numbers be very heavy in the coming months, it could become necessary to retrogress some cut-off dates for September, most likely for China-mainland born and India, but also possibly for Mexico and Philippines. Severe cut-off date retrogressions are likely to occur early in FY-2008.
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pcs
07-05 01:59 PM
Good job pcs !!
I'll take my family to the congressman's office and the documents that you suggested. We can not sit quiet now!
Just please let me know. WSJ news article & Congresswoman's letter adds a lot of muscle in your argument when you meet them
Some can use following letter to email / fax.............................
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Hi ,
This is not a regular mail.. I on behalf of many others need the support of honest media persons like you, else our faith in American media will be gone for good....
pl. read on...
Illegal action by USCIS causes $ 300 million loss in a single day to Legal & Skilled Immigrants ( Doctors, Engineers & Scientists ) not counting the hardships.
Skilled immigrants like Doctors, Engineers & Scientists have been paying all the taxes, following all the laws of the land and have been stuck in huge wait period of 3- 7 years to obtain green card.
On 13th of June 07, USCIS announced that all these people stuck for years can apply for the green card starting 2nd July 07. Everyone spent 2 weeks & $3000 per person at the minimum towards Attorney fees, medical tests & other unsalvageable direct costs prepared the application and started to send it to USCIS starting 2nd July 07.
In an unusual act of absolute disregard to the hardships and financial loss of these applicants, USCIS announced on the morning of 2nd July 07 that they will not accept any application for green card.
A COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THEIR EARLIER PLOICY ON THE VERY 1st DAY OF THE WINDOW ANNOUNCED BY THEMSELVES.
If nobody takes an action to support law abiding legal immigrants at this time, everyone talking about supporting the laws of the land on immigration issue needs to look into his / her own eyes in the mirror.
What we demand �. Talk to USCIS & encourage them to ATLEAST accept the applications sent by these innocent Skilled Immigrants so that they do not suffer at least the financial loss. USCIS can take their own time to award the green card at a later date
ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ???????????????????
I'll take my family to the congressman's office and the documents that you suggested. We can not sit quiet now!
Just please let me know. WSJ news article & Congresswoman's letter adds a lot of muscle in your argument when you meet them
Some can use following letter to email / fax.............................
......
.......
Hi ,
This is not a regular mail.. I on behalf of many others need the support of honest media persons like you, else our faith in American media will be gone for good....
pl. read on...
Illegal action by USCIS causes $ 300 million loss in a single day to Legal & Skilled Immigrants ( Doctors, Engineers & Scientists ) not counting the hardships.
Skilled immigrants like Doctors, Engineers & Scientists have been paying all the taxes, following all the laws of the land and have been stuck in huge wait period of 3- 7 years to obtain green card.
On 13th of June 07, USCIS announced that all these people stuck for years can apply for the green card starting 2nd July 07. Everyone spent 2 weeks & $3000 per person at the minimum towards Attorney fees, medical tests & other unsalvageable direct costs prepared the application and started to send it to USCIS starting 2nd July 07.
In an unusual act of absolute disregard to the hardships and financial loss of these applicants, USCIS announced on the morning of 2nd July 07 that they will not accept any application for green card.
A COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THEIR EARLIER PLOICY ON THE VERY 1st DAY OF THE WINDOW ANNOUNCED BY THEMSELVES.
If nobody takes an action to support law abiding legal immigrants at this time, everyone talking about supporting the laws of the land on immigration issue needs to look into his / her own eyes in the mirror.
What we demand �. Talk to USCIS & encourage them to ATLEAST accept the applications sent by these innocent Skilled Immigrants so that they do not suffer at least the financial loss. USCIS can take their own time to award the green card at a later date
ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ???????????????????
tinamatthew
07-23 12:05 AM
OK!
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
WELL SAID CHISINAU
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
WELL SAID CHISINAU
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07-19 12:25 AM
Thank you for contribution, friend!!
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Thanks to IV Team:)
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DesiPardesi
07-13 04:43 PM
Having some samples loaded will help other members in contacting. I agree that personal story will be more effective but atleast we will know format of request.
Thanks.
Thanks.
leo2606
09-28 08:37 PM
But I think franklin posted earlier that she got her GC when the priority dates are not current. And shows about 5 EB3s from India got approvals during September whos PDs are on or after 2003.Do you think USCIS might have requested the visa number for their cases when their PD was current?
They can do "wild" approvals, however, they have to do it as per September visa bulletin. IF they dont have enough approvable 485s that are as per the Sept visa bulletin and if the approvable "ready to go" cases are past the priority dates of September bulletin, then they will be sitting unapproved as they CANT do any kind of "wild" approval.
Keeping all dates current in Sept (like july, but intentionally this time around) could have made is easier on USCIS to have more choice and easily find "ready to go" cases to assign and consume all visa numbers.
They can do "wild" approvals, however, they have to do it as per September visa bulletin. IF they dont have enough approvable 485s that are as per the Sept visa bulletin and if the approvable "ready to go" cases are past the priority dates of September bulletin, then they will be sitting unapproved as they CANT do any kind of "wild" approval.
Keeping all dates current in Sept (like july, but intentionally this time around) could have made is easier on USCIS to have more choice and easily find "ready to go" cases to assign and consume all visa numbers.
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Milind123
09-14 07:56 PM
Lets have a quick penultimate round. New contributors have, so far, not let us down. They have stepped forward in each and every round and made it a success. They have taken the most difficult step; contribute for the first time. I know, I was there once. Kudos to them.
In this round could I have support from three existing contributors to quickly finish this round. May I have some pledges please? I would like to fire the third round. BTW this pistol has seven shots. Once we finish this round we will move to the last round and it has 14 shots. 21 shots in total.
These 2 rounds is specially dedicates to the core team members; without them there won�t be any shots fired here. Without them Sept18th would be just one ordinary day on the calendar. They have given us a chance to remember Sep18th forever, no matter what the results are after that day. For me personally, Sept 18th will be a defining moment. So lets give a deserving 21 Gun salute to the core team.
We just need three people who have never contributed before.
In this round could I have support from three existing contributors to quickly finish this round. May I have some pledges please? I would like to fire the third round. BTW this pistol has seven shots. Once we finish this round we will move to the last round and it has 14 shots. 21 shots in total.
These 2 rounds is specially dedicates to the core team members; without them there won�t be any shots fired here. Without them Sept18th would be just one ordinary day on the calendar. They have given us a chance to remember Sep18th forever, no matter what the results are after that day. For me personally, Sept 18th will be a defining moment. So lets give a deserving 21 Gun salute to the core team.
We just need three people who have never contributed before.
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BharatPremi
04-16 02:22 PM
Yes, my status is changed to 'RIR-In Process' from 'TR-In Process' on 04/13/2007. Victim of PBEC
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EB3-state:MA-PD:July'2003- Original TR-NowRIR
Anyone has their case converted to RIR recently at PBEC ?
Mine pending since Jan 2007.
- BharatPremi
EB3-state:MA-PD:July'2003- Original TR-NowRIR
Anyone has their case converted to RIR recently at PBEC ?
Mine pending since Jan 2007.
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unseenguy
02-11 01:24 AM
yes, my previous reply to your post was a bit sarcastic. Didnt mean to offend anyone!
Using your same token, can we say "there are many idiots here who don't know what parenting is and use their parents to get a life for themselves and then ditch them?"
Dude, straitjacketing doesn't work and as you said, it is totally based on circumstances. :)
Yeah right . You dont mean to offend by being sarcastic. Why are you in US? Go take care of your old parents in India? More than your money they need your physical presence there.
Oh wait, you probably have a brother who did not study much or maybe a sister in India who is taking care of them and you only provide monetory support.
And yes, I dont care if this offends you.
Using your same token, can we say "there are many idiots here who don't know what parenting is and use their parents to get a life for themselves and then ditch them?"
Dude, straitjacketing doesn't work and as you said, it is totally based on circumstances. :)
Yeah right . You dont mean to offend by being sarcastic. Why are you in US? Go take care of your old parents in India? More than your money they need your physical presence there.
Oh wait, you probably have a brother who did not study much or maybe a sister in India who is taking care of them and you only provide monetory support.
And yes, I dont care if this offends you.
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jay1ram2
08-23 07:33 PM
Mu thpoughts and assumptions. Might want tot talk to your attoney too
> First thing to remember is this not a law yet and it might take some time to become law and that too "IF" it gets approval
> Second "IF" this becomes a law and if your I140 application says Advacned Degree/Exceptional Ability then you might have to send additional docs
> As I said in my earlier thread my i140 approval clearly said "Advacned Degree, or Exceptional Ability"
> You might want to check your application once too
thanks
satish
Mine is "Advanced Degree, or Exceptional Ability". I got my I-140 approved in June 2007 and haven't filed my 485 because I was not married at that time.
> First thing to remember is this not a law yet and it might take some time to become law and that too "IF" it gets approval
> Second "IF" this becomes a law and if your I140 application says Advacned Degree/Exceptional Ability then you might have to send additional docs
> As I said in my earlier thread my i140 approval clearly said "Advacned Degree, or Exceptional Ability"
> You might want to check your application once too
thanks
satish
Mine is "Advanced Degree, or Exceptional Ability". I got my I-140 approved in June 2007 and haven't filed my 485 because I was not married at that time.
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gccube
07-19 03:29 PM
You forgot that there were another 150,000 applications in this example with RD prior to PersonB and it is very likely that many of them could have the PD of April, 2003. Therefore, PersonB will still not get it even though he/she has an older Priority date!!
I think that after this stampede of application filings in June/July/August, USCIS needs to sort them by PD first otherwise people with older priority dates will suffer simply due to the volume of applications filed!!
If a person with PD 2003 May applies for AOS only in Oct 2007. If the above said statement is true then when are they going to work on this new application they got. If they are not going to work on it until the RD becomes current why are they even accepting the case.
I think that after this stampede of application filings in June/July/August, USCIS needs to sort them by PD first otherwise people with older priority dates will suffer simply due to the volume of applications filed!!
If a person with PD 2003 May applies for AOS only in Oct 2007. If the above said statement is true then when are they going to work on this new application they got. If they are not going to work on it until the RD becomes current why are they even accepting the case.
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susie
07-15 12:12 PM
I thought about posting my case details and now the complaint has been filed feel it is only fair to share with others as my case could set a presidence for others
I will keep story as points for ease
1. Husband moved to the USA in 1998 on L 1 inter company transfer
2. In 2000 company applied for I 140 for husband and approved May 2001
3. Within one year of I 140 approval, husband submitted I 485 for himself and youngest son. At the same time filed I 824 for son who was living abroad and was to follow to join once degree was finished. per I 485 instructions which still state to follow this procedure if minor child abroad.
4. Son abroad became 21 years in April 2002 and also subject to patriot act.
His I 824 was pending at enactment of CSPA.
5. In Oct 2002 we received a denial letter for 1st I 824, this letter did not say "aged out" just said re submit new I 824 once husband received his green card (so no final determination )
6. May 2004 submitted new I 824 for son abroad, this was approved Aug 2004
7. As no news from consulate by Jan 2005, sought assistance from Congressman Weldon. Eventually in Oct 2005 (via e-mail) The American embassy in London advised congressman my son aged out
8. After many consultations with different attorneys, who all said son was protected under cspa, started to get file together to file complaint.
9. Had difficulty finding attorney who understood the cspa well enough or willing to challenge.
10, In early 2006 husband became unwell and passed within a matter of a few weeks
As husband (the petitioner ) passed away I thought all hope was lost. Thanks to reporters printing my story an attorney came forward and offered assistance. All assets were frozen but the attorney kindly took case on a pro- bono
The complaint was filed March 2007, on the basis the first I 824 was denied in error.
The cspa is not retroactive as a rule and son is covered under limited exception as I 824 was filed before he was 21 years and pending at enactment of cspa.
There has recently been a new cspa court case that has approved a retroactive case, so there is hope for us all
I will keep story as points for ease
1. Husband moved to the USA in 1998 on L 1 inter company transfer
2. In 2000 company applied for I 140 for husband and approved May 2001
3. Within one year of I 140 approval, husband submitted I 485 for himself and youngest son. At the same time filed I 824 for son who was living abroad and was to follow to join once degree was finished. per I 485 instructions which still state to follow this procedure if minor child abroad.
4. Son abroad became 21 years in April 2002 and also subject to patriot act.
His I 824 was pending at enactment of CSPA.
5. In Oct 2002 we received a denial letter for 1st I 824, this letter did not say "aged out" just said re submit new I 824 once husband received his green card (so no final determination )
6. May 2004 submitted new I 824 for son abroad, this was approved Aug 2004
7. As no news from consulate by Jan 2005, sought assistance from Congressman Weldon. Eventually in Oct 2005 (via e-mail) The American embassy in London advised congressman my son aged out
8. After many consultations with different attorneys, who all said son was protected under cspa, started to get file together to file complaint.
9. Had difficulty finding attorney who understood the cspa well enough or willing to challenge.
10, In early 2006 husband became unwell and passed within a matter of a few weeks
As husband (the petitioner ) passed away I thought all hope was lost. Thanks to reporters printing my story an attorney came forward and offered assistance. All assets were frozen but the attorney kindly took case on a pro- bono
The complaint was filed March 2007, on the basis the first I 824 was denied in error.
The cspa is not retroactive as a rule and son is covered under limited exception as I 824 was filed before he was 21 years and pending at enactment of cspa.
There has recently been a new cspa court case that has approved a retroactive case, so there is hope for us all
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wandmaker
05-22 07:40 AM
Come forward and contribute for your own cause.
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Mouns
04-30 03:56 PM
I am very disappointed. I was hoping for more relevant questions, and more to the point:
Why is it such a mess? What is being done?
It is just all bad. And yet I am current so I shouldn't complain. But man, this system is surely broken.
Good luck to you all.
Why is it such a mess? What is being done?
It is just all bad. And yet I am current so I shouldn't complain. But man, this system is surely broken.
Good luck to you all.
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pappu
06-10 01:18 PM
The best way is this .
1) Apply labor and I140 .
2) Once I-140 is approved have an understanding with the companyeturn to ( attorney ) that they will not stip your GC processing .
3) Return to Booming India and have fun and make money . Raise kids . Change jobs .
4) Hope that the PD will be current by the time you are 60 and ready to retire .Get your GC stamped in India by 2040 . :D
5) Retire in the USA in instead of India . :D
Advantages
**********
1) Advantage to change jobs and make more money , and not being stuck with a single employer for decades , and be exploited .( exploited does not apply to everyone !!! )
2) Give kids the Indian upbringing .
3) Enjoy with your family , friends and relatives
4) Come and back and retire in USA after retirement .
Why?
Is retirement better in USA?
Just curious to know the reasons.
1) Apply labor and I140 .
2) Once I-140 is approved have an understanding with the companyeturn to ( attorney ) that they will not stip your GC processing .
3) Return to Booming India and have fun and make money . Raise kids . Change jobs .
4) Hope that the PD will be current by the time you are 60 and ready to retire .Get your GC stamped in India by 2040 . :D
5) Retire in the USA in instead of India . :D
Advantages
**********
1) Advantage to change jobs and make more money , and not being stuck with a single employer for decades , and be exploited .( exploited does not apply to everyone !!! )
2) Give kids the Indian upbringing .
3) Enjoy with your family , friends and relatives
4) Come and back and retire in USA after retirement .
Why?
Is retirement better in USA?
Just curious to know the reasons.
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pappu
08-01 01:15 PM
I will be more than happy if I can help. Please note I do not have any journalism background.
Thank you for your offer and also other people who are sending me PM for this. We will try to get as many as possible so that we can submit to multiple newspapers and websites.
Thank you for your offer and also other people who are sending me PM for this. We will try to get as many as possible so that we can submit to multiple newspapers and websites.
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akhilmahajan
10-25 11:15 PM
Same with me. I hope people understand that this is a serious issue.
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immi2006
08-18 10:45 AM
There are a few hundred cases of Eb2 and 3 getting approved in my American company.
People are jumping into conclusion with a few approvals from 2004/2005, but what you are not considering is the number of people with 2001/2002 priority dates who just applied for 485 in June. There might be a lot of them (I am one of those). If there are not too many of them, it is good for everyone, but its very tough to predict.
From what I heard from my lawfirm, they expect the oct bulletin to go back to 2001 or early 2002. But with everyone filing 485, USCIS should be able to predict the number of applicants and move dates better compared to earlier when they were shooting in the dark and wasting visas.
Anyway, good luck to all
People are jumping into conclusion with a few approvals from 2004/2005, but what you are not considering is the number of people with 2001/2002 priority dates who just applied for 485 in June. There might be a lot of them (I am one of those). If there are not too many of them, it is good for everyone, but its very tough to predict.
From what I heard from my lawfirm, they expect the oct bulletin to go back to 2001 or early 2002. But with everyone filing 485, USCIS should be able to predict the number of applicants and move dates better compared to earlier when they were shooting in the dark and wasting visas.
Anyway, good luck to all
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baleraosreedhar
09-12 02:48 PM
Instead of sending Pen,clock and flowers on 1 day , for a big impact lets send it for continously for 5 days starting on Sept 29 monday and ending on Oct 3 friday.
This way atleast Main Stream media will hear our woes and help in getting the message to the right parties.
This way atleast Main Stream media will hear our woes and help in getting the message to the right parties.
nirenjoshi
03-09 06:03 PM
Added info about April VB to past VBs table.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data
The way dates are moved doesn't seem to have any fact based intelligent logic.
Thanks.. I was about to create a table myself based on the archived bulletins..
However, there isnt much to infer - as you say there doesnt seem to be any logic in the movement of dates. The lack of transparency is quite frustrating.:mad:
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data
The way dates are moved doesn't seem to have any fact based intelligent logic.
Thanks.. I was about to create a table myself based on the archived bulletins..
However, there isnt much to infer - as you say there doesnt seem to be any logic in the movement of dates. The lack of transparency is quite frustrating.:mad:
Mayday
05-09 08:11 PM
actually I am pretty sure they are misinterpreting some more general requirement, like you have to be PRESENT in the USA for at least 6 months and being allowed to be present for more than a year, to apply for DL. Since for the first 12 months you can use a foreign DL.
do not trust clerks that sit at the entrance; they proved to know almost nothing about visa, I-94 and etc. If some rules seem absurd, go for manager right away and do not waste time on low-level clerks. Let them do their routine work - US citizens address changes and school-children DLs.
I have to go through them every time I need to change the address and/or get DL. Every time it ends up with a manager, and every time manager calls some other department and it ends up with issuing DL. So simply be persistent. If manager refuses - request written decline with law quote that they used to decline your application. Read this law and appeal based on what is said there.
do not trust clerks that sit at the entrance; they proved to know almost nothing about visa, I-94 and etc. If some rules seem absurd, go for manager right away and do not waste time on low-level clerks. Let them do their routine work - US citizens address changes and school-children DLs.
I have to go through them every time I need to change the address and/or get DL. Every time it ends up with a manager, and every time manager calls some other department and it ends up with issuing DL. So simply be persistent. If manager refuses - request written decline with law quote that they used to decline your application. Read this law and appeal based on what is said there.
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